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Rejoice. VoiceLive 2 adds VLOOP looping plus core improvements!

After delays for testing and improving, we’re rejoicing in the release (or re-release) of VoiceLive 2 firmware version 1.3. This is a free update for all VoiceLive 2 users.

We heard from one or two thousand of you in the VoiceLive 2 community that you’d love to have looping in VoiceLive 2. The upgrade includes VLOOP as well as a number of bug fixes and an impressive update to the pitch detection engine that provides even better Harmony, Doubling and HardTune performance in noisy environments (which is, like… everywhere!)

So what kind of looper did we cram into VoiceLive 2? Good question. What you get is a simple to use, single button looper that can be assigned to the SHORTCUT button. You get 15 seconds of stereo looping, 30 seconds in mono, or 30/60 seconds stereo/mono if you’re daring enough to live without Undo. This is plenty of time to have fun with looping. Check out the feature points below to get all the juicy details.

What don’t you get with this looper? You don’t get the advanced Loops and Shots looping modes found in VoiceLive Touch and you aren’t able to save your loops on your VoiceLive 2 – but trust us, you’re still going to have fun looping vocals and guitar. Check out Tom and Laura’s videos below – they’re sufficiently addicted to the feature already.

Scroll down after the videos to see the list of changes, links to the manual addendum, some looping presets and the link for downloading the v1.3 firmware.

The Big New Feature:
Added VLOOP feature – The Shortcut footswitch can now be assigned per preset or globally to control looping. You can record, loop, play, overdub, undo/redo, stop and erase playback, all with the Shortcut footswitch. All analog inputs are recorded meaning that you can combine voice, vocal effects, guitar and its effects (Guitar Thru disconnected) plus the aux input into your loops. A total of 15 seconds of full stereo looping or 30 seconds of mono looping are available. If you can live without Undo, you can double those numbers. We also added a Loop Feedback adjustment so you can layer indefinitely without sonic overload or use it to fade out your loops gradually during overdubbing.

Improvements:
- Pitch detection update for noisy environments – Greatly improved the voice pitch detection algorithm so that stray input from other instruments is much less likely to cause harmony or doubling breakup.
- Tap Delay tempo can be adjusted in 1 BPM increments after holding the Delay button to set tempo. The Preset up/down buttons now adjust up or down by 1 BPM in this mode.

Fixes:
- Dump Rate parameter added to enable Mac Leopard and Snow Leopard users to use VoiceSupport presets feature.
- Edited Doubling gender settings are stored correctly now.
- Bypass + Tuner now works correctly to mute lead voice when Lead Mute parameter is on
- Effects now correctly bypass in Dual Mono output mode.
- Fixed bug where rhythmic sample kept playing after preset change
- Tempo for Rhythmic is now stored correctly with preset.
- Delay no longer mutes when entering Edit mode.
- Fix to Double harmony voices droning when in NOTES 4CH mode.
- Fix to Notes Transpose parameter being ignored.
- Fixed duplicate 1/4 triplet in delay divisions text. Now says 1/4 Dot.
- Double gender now stored with preset

EXPORT & BACK-UP PRESETS (IMPORTANT)
YOUR PRESETS AND SETUP WILL BE ERASED UPGRADING TO VERSION 1.3. Before upgrading the firmware, use VoiceSupport’s Export feature (not Archive) to backup your presets, then use Import to restore them after the firmware upgrade. See section 3.2 and 3.3 of the offline manual in VoiceSupport on how to back up presets.

If you want to keep any Setup parameter values such as In Gain or Output Stereo/mono etc, these will need to be written down and re-entered manually as Setup values are not able to be exported/imported with VoiceSupport in this update.

Mac Leopard and Snow Leopard User Note:
See an updated thread on issues with using VoiceSupport on our Support FAQ before initiating the firmware update:

Using version 1.3.07 build 102 or higher of VoiceLive 2?
After you upgrading to the new firmware you need to restore your device to factory default settings.

CLICK HERE TO UPDATE

Latest Manuals and Addendums

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68 comments to “Rejoice. VoiceLive 2 adds VLOOP looping plus core improvements!”

  1. Hi. could you please send me a Phone # and address to send my Voice live 2
    I would like a teck to put the up dates and the v looping in
    I realize it is free but would be willing to pay to have this done correctly
    and asap. HELP I am a horn player everything Brass and use the unit to fill up
    the whole section
    Please let me know where to send it the cost and app. turn around
    Thank you Kindly
    Capt. Andy Seymore (phone # removed)

    • Hi Andy,

      We don’t provide that as a service, but you can find all the info you’ll need on the VoiceSupport page. It’s got downloads for both mac and pc versions of the software, plus a manual to guide you through the firmware update process.

      http://www.tc-helicon.com/products/voicesupport/

        • August 2, 2012 at 10:50 am by Mike

        PLease tell me how to manually loop on the the TChelicon voice live2.. There are no instructions anywhere! Please walk me through step by step after turing the the device on

      • Hi Mike,

        All the instructions for looping are on pg. 91 of the manual. http://www.tc-helicon.com/download/manuals/voicelive-2/VL2_details_US_v1_3.pdf

        The only other setting you’ll need to change is the Shortcut button. You can find instructions for setting the Shortcut button to Loop starting on pg. 19 and then more on pg. 88.

  2. As a user of the Voice live 2 , I have an idea to improve the Looping feature, It would be very beneficial for the user to be able to have a metronome or click at the start of the loop to enable the user to add layers at the correct point as I can never get the loop to be exact – there is always a gap.
    I hope this makes sense.
    John

  3. hi! I downloaded a new version 1.3 but nothing has changed. It restarted but nothing happens. How to find the loop?
    thanks!

  4. Would it work with a keyboard instead of guitar?

    • Hiya Karen,

      Absolutely! You can definitely use a keyboard to trigger harmonies on the VoiceLive 2. To do this you would simply connect the keyboard to the MIDI input on the unit and select MIDI or Autosense in the NaturalPlay section of the harmony menu.

      Best wishes,

      Joey

  5. Alright! Cool!

  6. Is there any way to separate the vocal in and guitar in and route the guitar signal to the quarter inch outs and vocal to the xlr outs? this way i can avoid the “thru”

    • Hiya Matt,

      Sorry, unfortunately this can’t be done. However, you may want to post this as a suggestion to the TC-Helicon team via the “Share an Idea” link on the TC-Helicon website:

      http://www.tc-helicon.com/share-an-idea/

      Best wishes,

      Joey

  7. hi..
    i have harmony g xt, and i wonder if there is latency option for harmonies or not..thank you

    • Hiya Yigit,

      There is no option on the Harmony-G XT for adding latency. Is this the question you were meaning to ask, or are you experiencing latency in your current set-up?

      Best wishes,

      Joey

    • March 10, 2011 at 1:35 am by lez
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    hi i still dont see a link to download this 1.3 version???? perhaps im blind?

    • Hiya Lez,

      You will need to use the VoiceSupport application to update the firmware on your VoiceLive 2. Simply load the application while your unit and the internet is connected and you will find the 1.3 update on the firmware tab. Please do remember to update your presets before applying the update.

      Best wishes,

      Joey

  9. 您好,我是去年底买的VoiceLive 2,有一问题想请问一下:我用立体声的连接线从耳机接到调音台,声音发虚,怎么解决啊?另外我想知道 thru 这个插孔是连接什么用的,谢谢,希望给于答复.

  10. Hi,

    First off, I have used a Harmony G now live for more than a yr and a half and I absolutely love it, but I’m tired of bringing a lot of other crap to my shows. I am pretty excited about this new VL2 but before I purchase one I just want to be clear on 1 thing.
    I play an acoustic and run my guitar (Thru) to my DI so what I need to know is if the looper that is in this thing can be assigned per preset to just record guitar only or does the thing record all inputs at once all the time.

    Thank You,
    Stevie…

    • Hiya Stevie,

      The looper (VLOOP) on VoiceLive 2 will record everything that goes through the outputs and cannot be set to record one specific source at any specific time – you’d have to build up your layers. For more extensive looping options you might want to read up on the VoiceLive Touch.

      Best wishes,

      Joey

      • January 30, 2011 at 11:31 am by Joe
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      I have the voicelive 2 and absolutely love. I have question in reagards to Vloop. Once the loop is recorded and playing back, is there anyway to change the settings so that the loop can be stopped by tapping the “shortcut” button once instead of twice. It is very difficult to quickly double tap the shortcut button to turn off the loop while you are playing live. I would love to be able to use this feature live to lay down so chords while I play lead but it is nearly impossible to time the entry back into the song because of needing to double tap to stop the loop. I can’t really complain because this thing is so awesome but this feature is one button puch away from perfection!
      thanks

      • Hiya Joe,

        Glad you love your VoiceLive 2! Thanks for taking the time to write…

        With regards to VLOOP – unfortunately this can’t be done, however it might be worth posting this via the “Share An Idea” link on TC-Helicon’s website so that all the right eyes see it. We’re always looking to improve our user’s experience and this feedback is vital and extremely valued by us.

        Best wishes,

        Joey

  11. I,VE HEARD THE HELICONE 2 AND IT,S THE TOP,SO I ASK YOU WHAT IS THE PRICE FOR THIS PRODACT.THANKS I HOPE I GET THE ANSWER QUIQLY

    • Hiya Mr Nick,

      Thanks for the fantastic comment! Glad you like it :) .

      As far as the price goes, the best thing to do is to get in touch with your local TC-Helicon dealer.

      Best wishes,

      Joey

  12. Hi ! wondering if there may be a way to assign an external pedal connected to the footswitch jack, to stop the loop playback with a ‘single’ click ? this would be a HUGE advantage when playing in a live situation… thanks ! Kevin

    • Hiya Kevin,

      There isn’t currently a way to do this – good suggestion though!

      I’d suggest posting this on the “share an idea” link on the front page of the TC-Helicon website as these mails go direct to the desk of everyone at TC-Helicon, no delays. They do get read!

      We’re always looking for ways to improve our products so your feedback is very valued.

      Best wishes,

      Joey

  13. Am Anfang des Loops kommt es zu einer kleinen verzögerung. Kann man das beheben ?

  14. Hi,

    there is still bug….if you have Harmony natural play set to “Aux in” the guitar tuner doesn’t work properly.

    If you change it to “guitar” then works.

    Please add this to your bug list and keep up a great work!

    Regards,
    Uros

  15. Hi

    I wonder if you can help. When I sing through headphones, I noticed that the global voice effects make my voice sound kind of tinny, like there is too much reverb or compression. I’m not very knowledgable about this side of things but have a baritone fairly classical sounding voice. My G/F also reckons voice live makes my voice sound robotic through the PA and wants me to flick it. Not my idea of what was supposed to happen. Any advice? I don’t think I need to use the voice correct option and I love the effects on the guitar although I would like to be able to use them with electric and add my own as well (eg overdrive). Basically I want Voice Live to be my vocal sound engineer and to use the harmonies etc sparingly when I’m singing and playing on my own. I probably just need a really simple list of suggestions to customise the global voice effects to better suit my voice. Maybe I have set something up wrong, because I know it’s great technology but my voice on it’s own seems to sound better than with the global voice effects? At the moment, I’m also thinking that reducing the volume of the harmonies / doubling etc will reduce the robotic effect on the harmonies. Thanks, any advice would be greatly appreciated.

    • Heya Neil,

      I hear what you are saying, let’s see if I can help a bit :) .

      Often what sounds “good” to one person, doesn’t to someone else – so this is a hard one for me to help with as it’s largely personal taste… but, I can certainly make some suggestions for you to try based on the elements you’ve explained you’re not enjoying. One of the great things about the VoiceLive 2 has got to be how editable it is – so you’re never stuck with something you “almost” like – it’s simply a case of developing an understanding of which things change what and having the courage to get in there and experiment to find that out!

      Absolutely, if you’re not liking the adaptive tone features – dive into the the manual settings by holding down the tone button. Here you can turn the “adaptive” features off globally and begin editing to your heart’s content.

      With regards to the “tinny” tone you’re hearing… I would suggest taking off some of the high frequencies and backing off on the compression. Once you’ve found the eq your happy with, I’d then suggest looking at the other areas (reverb/harmonies etc). It’s worth mentioning that the tone you’re hearing through your headphones may not acurately represent the tone you would hear through a full PA/front of house system – this can be very dependant on the type of headphones you are using.

      In reference to where you refer to your voice sounding “robotic” – is this when harmonies are added? Unless you are using “hardtune” or you have your pitch correction cranked quite high, then your regular un-harmonized voice should still sound completely natural. I would try turning the pitch correction off completely and seeing if that solved the issue. If you still find you want pitch correction, try using as little as possible.

      In regards to harmonies – if these are sounding “robotic” to your ears, the best place to start is by reducing the volume of the harmonies in relation to your lead voice and add a tasteful amount of reverb to aid in blending the voices together. Try the different ways of affecting them too as these can make quite a difference (in the edit menu under the harmony tab – scroll through the “Humanize Style” using the mix knobs. Vibrato Style just below that is worth checking out too as there’s a few options there aswell).

      If you want to use your own guitar effects setup (you’d have to choose either VoiceLive 2′s built in guitar effects or your own – you can’t mix and match this unfortunately) but still want to use your guitar to trigger the harmonies – simply use the “THRU”.

      Hope that arms you with a few more things to try and think about! Let me know how you get on :) .

      Best wishes,

      Joey

  16. where can i find the settings/preset for choir effect like the one on the demo?

    http://www.tc-helicon.com/products/voicelive-2/

    #2 Track – Choir Effect Demo, Dry, then harmony and choir effect..

    Thanks and GodBless! ^^

    • Hiya charterrockz,

      I’ll see if I can find out the exact preset that was used here for you. Until then, I’d suggest trying out VoiceLive 2′s “Wizard” button. There you can simply select “choir” or “harmonies” and it will come up with all the presets that contain those effects/elements.

      If you go to page 18 of the complete VoiceLive 2 manual (downloadable for free via TC-Helicon’s website), it takes you through how to use the Wizard:-

      http://www.tc-helicon.com/download/manuals/voicelive-2/VoiceLive_2_Details_US_v1-3.pdf

      Best wishes,

      Joey

  17. Hello Joei
    I feel relieved to see the interest that TCHelicon show in the development of VoiceLive2 and the users request. For me VoiceLive2 is a unique product because the vocal quality results and easy to recognize the guitar harmonies, really bright work. Thanks for your kind attention.

    • You’re very welcome manuel :) .

      Best wishes,

      Joey

  18. Can someone point me to the firmware update link? I’ve scanned this page 4-5 times and I cannot find it. Perhaps it’s just a matter of making it BIG and more obvious..? :-)

    Thanks in advance!

    • Hiya David,

      You can update to the version 1.3 firmware via the VoiceSupport application. Simply connect your device, backup your presets and select 1.3 from the available versions on the firmware tab.

      Best wishes,

      Joey

  19. Hello Diary and Joei and everybody, I have the same issue that Diary:

    I made my update to 1.3. But now the “S/PDIF Out” has no sound. I do a factory reset of presets and setup after upgraded to 1.3, but this no fixes the issue.
    The vloop is a beautiful present. I hope that this problem will have a solution in a new upgrade. Thanks.
    Sorry for my bad english.

    • Hiya Manuel,

      Yes that’s right. It is unfortunately a known bug. The TC-Helicon team is doing everything they can to get this one fixed as soon as possible.

      It may help you to know however that the analog conversion in VoiceLive 2 is of major high quality so the analog I/O can be used in the meantime.

      Sorry for the inconvenience and I sincerely thank you for your patience and understanding.

      Best wishes,

      Joey

  20. at all : before exuse me for very bad English
    this is my 1.3 feedback:
    - I have tried to use the loop in output: dual mode
    but the recording does not work ; I specify that
    i’ve tried to set global shortcut in loop mode
    and also in single prognam, but in both cases
    the the recording does not work.
    - in output: mono mode the recording can be only listened to from the channel left
    - it works well in stereo mode
    I ask to you if all this is normal

    Ciao da Roma

  21. dear joey,

    after the update to firmware 1.3 voice support stucks while importing the presets from the voicelife2, between preset 40-102 it stucks….i read the faq about the problem, but i cant’ handle it. back to 1.2 importing the presets worked like a charm…i’m on 10.6.5
    any ideas?

    thank you

    friendly greetings
    fabio

    • Hiya Fabio,

      Sorry to hear you are having issues with the update. Just to be sure, did you do a complete factory reset of the VoiceLive 2 after updating the firmware?

      If you have done this and are still experiencing problems, the best thing to do would be to get in touch with our support team via: http://www.tc-helicon.com/support.asp so they can get you back on track.

      Best wishes,

      Joey

        • December 4, 2010 at 6:31 am by fabio

        dear joey,

        i contacted support, i have to wait for an update, my version 1.3 fizzes (when i use reverb or harmony a strange fizz overtone is noticable) and has a bug with voice support. back to 1.2…

        friendly greetings
        fabio

      • Hiya fabio,

        I’m really sorry to hear things didn’t go smoothly for you. Getting in touch with support was definitely the right thing to do. Here’s hoping you get a quick fix and get back to enjoying 1.3 really soon.

        Thanks for letting me know how it’s going, I like to know people are recieving help!

        Best wishes,

        Joey

    • Hi all. Had the same probleme. Fabio make sure that you have the last update from VoiceSupport and than set in VL2, System, MidiTab, Sys to”delayed” ! For me that works now. Good luck from “snowy” Germany-Karl

  22. Where is the file for presets 390+. I skipped the “backup” procedure when I downloaded V1.3 (all was erased and replaced). The installation was successful. Was the preset file loaded somewhere during the installation? If so where? If not where can I get it? I thought I need the presets for examples to act with vloop. Is it right? I`m sorry but I don`t understand. Please help!

  23. Version 1.3 works very well. The only problem I saw is that switching between presets take longer than previous versions.

  24. Can’t wait to get off work and give this a try… It has been what seems like a long wait.

    • Heya Jason,

      Here’s hoping you enjoy VLOOP!

      Best wishes,

      Joey

    • November 29, 2010 at 11:21 pm by tim
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    where is the link to download 1.3? I’m running mac os 10.4, so the new version of voicesupport does not work properly, does not connect to internet, will not show firmwware updates.
    Is there a way to download and install 1.3 directly?
    Is there a way to download the old version of voicesupport so I don’t have to run the new version that does not work on my computer?
    Thx, Tim

  26. Boa tarde. Excepcional esse procedimento de atualizar o Voice Live 2.Porem,nós do Brasil e tb de POrtugal precisamos de manual na lingua portuguesa, senão fica difícil implementar as mudanças. Thank you!!!!

  27. Hallo,
    This is rather not this topic, but I hope, you can help me.
    …to now I use my VL2 in the Scale mode, because this is simpler like the chord mode and the results are good (with exception of the couple of songs, where the scale often changes or comes unusual chords).
    Now I like to try to set the harmonies with the music – how work it?
    1. Is this a difference if I use a mono or stereo mini-jack?
    2. How scan the function the chords from the music – like the chord mode or like the scale mode? So can it be use with all presets??
    Thanks very much for an answer :)

    • Hiya Krzysztof,

      From what you are saying I presume you are wanting to use the AUX input to harmonise with an audio source that you have (backing mp3 etc).

      The connection for the AUX in on VoiceLive 2 is a stereo minijack and the unit can take a stereo signal for generating harmonies. If you set “Natural Play” in the harmony tab of the edit menu to “Auto input sense” or “Aux Input” the VoiceLive 2 will recognise this and will use this as the source for harmony information.

      For more info on this, check out page 68 of the manual via the following link:-
      http://www.tc-helicon.com/download/manuals/voicelive-2/VoiceLive_2_Details_US_v1-3.pdf

      Hope this helps!

      Best wishes,

      Joey

  28. PERFEKT

  29. Thanks for the update.

    Would appreciate your help here — I can’t seem to get the guitar to loop if I send the signal out through the ‘thru’ channel to my other guitar effects processor.

    I only send the signal into voicelive to control harmonies but it seems as though this setup leaves me unable to use the looper on guitar.

    Please advise.

    thanks,
    michael

    • Hiya Michael,

      I understand what you’re trying to do here… As the Looper records sound on the overall output of the VoiceLive 2, it won’t record guitar signal when you are using the “THRU” jack. If you want your guitar to be looped also, you’ll need to plug your guitar directly into the VoiceLive2 without bypassing via the THRU.

      Best wishes,

      Joey

      • Thanks for the reply Joey.

        Don’t know if it’s possible, but I’d like to add this functionality to a future update -
        It would be great to be able to use the looper while still having access to external guitar effects.

        Best,
        Michael

      • Heya Michael,

        You’re very welcome :) . The best thing to do is to post your suggestion on the “Share an Idea” link on TC-Helicon’s website. This is very worth doing as ideas go straight to the desk of everyone who works at TC-Helicon – this is definitely the best way to get your suggestion heard!

        http://www.tc-helicon.com/share-an-idea/

        Best wishes,

        Joey

    • November 27, 2010 at 10:23 am by Ken
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    Thanks guys for the hard work on the update…..And for putting up with
    our impatience…

    You guys are great…..

  31. Hello!

    I made my update today. But now the “S/PDIF Out” has no sound. OK, I roll back to Version 1.2. Then I have audio on the S/PDIF. I try it again. I upgrade to Version 1.3, but there is no sound. The firmware has a major BUG!!!

    Sorry for my bad english.

    • Hiya Diary,

      I just wanted to check, did you do a factory reset of presets and setup after you upgraded to 1.3? There is a link in the post about the new version which explains how to do this.

      Let me know if this fixes your issue.

      Best wishes,

      Joey

  32. GRACIASSSSSSS.
    Voy a instalarlo ahora mismo

    • Hello Joey!

      Yes, I had set my device to the factory settings. But this does not solve the problem.

  33. Fantastic…I have upgraded and just had to follow the simple intsructions for Voice Support and Mac OS X 10.6…. now I just need to find some time to work with it all…looking forward to this…

    • November 26, 2010 at 10:52 pm by Theo
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    Ok… before i go off the rocker and start waking my everyone up… I think i just found Candy Land – You guys rock! looking forward to seeing how this update works ;)

  35. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

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